In this week’s episode of Voices of Search, we spoke with Jade Pruett, founder of Hello SEO, a transparent, ROI-driven agency helping small businesses turn both Google and AI search into measurable revenue. Jade works primarily with local and small businesses—including a significant roster of therapists—and has spent years translating the often-opaque world of SEO into terms that business owners can actually act on.
Our conversation covered why the fundamentals haven’t gone anywhere even as the industry obsesses over what’s new, how to leverage executive-level AI anxiety to earn buy-in for foundational work, and why the most important shift in SEO reporting isn’t about rankings or impressions at all—it’s about getting all the way down to conversions.
Key Takeaways From This Episode:
- The fundamentals of SEO—indexation health, content relevance, site speed, metadata—still drive the majority of results, even as AI reshapes discovery and conference agendas shift toward cutting-edge tactics.
- Good AI optimization starts with good foundational SEO. There’s no shortcut to skipping the basics and jumping straight to AEO or GEO.
- Executive FOMO around AI search can actually be a lever for getting buy-in on foundational work, if you frame those basics as the prerequisite for competing in the AI era.
- Reporting on impressions and organic traffic is increasingly unreliable. The metric that matters is conversions directly attributable to organic activity.
- Metadescriptions are having a quiet resurgence, but the old rules—strict character limits, rigid formatting—matter less now. Clarity and directness are what move the needle.
- LLM.txt is the most overrated tactic in SEO right now and deserves to be set aside until there’s meaningful evidence it’s being used.
- AI search is delivering fewer but significantly more qualified leads, particularly in local and service industries—which means the buying cycle is compressing even as raw traffic declines.
- If starting SEO from scratch today, begin with technical SEO and indexation before anything else.
Why the Fundamentals Are Still the Game, Even When No One Wants to Talk About Them
There’s a tension running through every SEO conference, client conversation, and agency pitch right now: everyone wants to talk about what’s new, but most of the value is still being created by what’s been true for years.
Google Still Has the Market, and the Basics Still Move It
Jade stated it plainly: “Google still has the massive majority of the market share. If we’re doing SEO, we can’t just not think about Google.” The tactics that drove results five years ago—indexation health, content that answers queries, and technical hygiene—are still doing the heavy lifting.
Part of what’s changed is the conference culture. Jade described attending MozCon in 2022, where sessions drilled into the basics. That’s rare now. “It feels like we’re all just wanting to be on the cutting edge, and that’s important, but also the fundamentals still are driving the majority of SEO,” Jade noted. “Practitioners risk undervaluing what still works in the rush toward the ‘sexy’ topics of AEO and GEO.”
The Language Has to Change Even When the Work Doesn’t
Even if the work hasn’t changed dramatically, the framing must. Telling a client you’re optimizing metadata doesn’t land the same way it did before the AI wave.
“Good AI optimization starts with good, just foundational SEO,” Jade explained. The gap between what is valuable and what sounds valuable is one of the defining communication challenges for SEOs today.
How to Use Executive AI Anxiety as a Buy-In Lever
One of the more practical threads in the conversation was how to navigate the moment when a stakeholder has FOMO about AI and wants to know what you’re doing about it—even when the most important work is foundational.
Meet Clients Where They Are
Jade follows the client’s lead. While they usually ask if they can get more people through the door, the second question is now: “Are we doing anything for AI search?” As Jade puts it, “There’s no reason not to start tracking how all of that’s working from the beginning as you’re making those initial optimizations.”
For small and local businesses, especially, the starting point is almost always the same, regardless of what they ask about:
- Indexation health first: The site must be crawlable to be visible to any engine.
- Content structure second: AI needs to understand content before it can surface it.
- Advanced strategy third: AI-specific optimizations only happen after the foundation is solid.
Frame Fundamentals as the Prerequisite, Not the Fallback
The fundamentals aren’t a consolation prize—they’re the entry ticket. Presenting it as a prerequisite gives leadership something concrete to support. For in-house SEOs, this is an opportunity. Leadership is more aware of search than ever, providing a window to advocate for work that might have been harder to fund in a quieter moment.
The Quiet Resurgence of Metadescriptions (and Why the Old Rules Don’t Apply)
One of the more specific tactical observations in the conversation was about metadescriptions, which have had a strange arc in the SEO world. For years, many practitioners stopped thinking about them much at all, as Google frequently rewrote them anyway.
Then AI search changed the calculus.
What’s Actually Working Now
Jade found that some of the old conventions matter considerably less than they used to: “Character limit or like pixel limit doesn’t seem to matter quite as much as it used to,” she observed. While this often “offends” clients who rely on SEO tool checkmarks, Jade suggests a different focus—”Making them [metas] just as straightforward as possible—’this is exactly what this page is about’—seems to be moving the needle as much as possible for AI.”
The honest answer is that this is still an area of active experimentation. The old rules are a less reliable guide than they used to be, and the right approach right now is to test rather than default.
The Shift From Vanity Metrics to Business Impact
The reporting conversation was one of the most direct in the episode. Jade’s position is that the industry leaned too hard on rank tracking for too long, conditioned clients to treat it as the primary measure of success, and is now dealing with the consequences.
Why the Old Metrics Are Breaking Down
Several signals that used to be reliable are now sending mixed or misleading messages:
- Traffic is down across the board for most sites, partly because AI search is answering questions before users click anywhere.
- Impressions in Search Console look strange year-over-year because of how AI Overviews have changed what gets surfaced.
- Branded search is spiking in ways that clients often find confusing, since it doesn’t feel like the discovery-oriented SEO they’re paying for.
- Rank tracking is increasingly disconnected from business outcomes, particularly as AI-generated answers push organic results further down the page.
The Metric That Actually Anchors the Conversation
Against that backdrop, the only metric that holds up is the one that’s always mattered most: conversions.
“If we’re going to hang our hat on a metric that actually matters, obviously it’s people filling out your contact form on your website,” Jade argued. “We have to look all the way down the funnel.” Organic search is starting to look more like a brand awareness channel than a direct traffic driver—and the budget conversations will eventually have to catch up.
Why AI Search Is Delivering Better Leads, Even With Less Traffic
Jade shared a clear pattern from her work with therapists. The leads coming in from AI search are smaller in volume than what Google delivers, but they arrive with a level of qualification that traditional search rarely produces.
Personalization Is the Reason
“Modern search engines are adding a level of personalization we didn’t see before,” Jade noted.
When someone interacts with an AI about finding a therapist, they share significant context. By the time the AI surfaces a recommendation, it has a richer picture than a keyword match ever would. The result is a better fit on both sides: the prospective client finds someone relevant, and the therapist gets an inquiry from someone already aligned with what they offer.
Transparent Reporting as the Real Job Security
Jade’s argument about reporting was direct: “Reporting is truly your job security. If you can report well, you’re going to keep your clients.” And reporting well doesn’t mean an automated dashboard—it means helping a business owner actually understand what’s happening.
Ditch the Automated Reports
Her approach has moved toward recording personalized Loom videos. “Knowing that someone took the time to explain your specific results, in plain language, creates a level of trust that a dashboard can’t replicate,” she explains.
Contrast this with a PDF report that gets ignored. Three months of ignored reports is often what precedes a client deciding they don’t know what they’re getting and cutting the engagement.
Transparency Is About Being Understood, Not Just Being Open
Transparency isn’t just about sharing data; it’s about sharing it in a way that lands. Being willing to say “I don’t know” is part of that. “I was so terrified to not know something for the first few years of my career, and now I hardly know anything,” Jade joked.
Pairing “we don’t know this yet” with “here’s how we’re going to find out” turns a potential credibility gap into a demonstration of true effort.
LLM.txt Is Getting Way Too Much Attention
The lightning round produced one answer worth highlighting. When asked for the most overrated SEO tactic right now, Jade didn’t hesitate:
“I think LLM.txt is getting a weird amount of attention for something that may or may not be real.”
The underlying problem is straightforward: the files aren’t being meaningfully used by the models. Until there’s actual evidence it influences AI systems, it’s a distraction from work that has a clearer path to impact.
Start With Technical SEO, Not Keywords
The conversation ended with a question that’s on a lot of marketers’ minds: with AI platforms, traditional search, and new discovery engines all cycling in and out of favor, how should brands think about where to invest?
Jade’s answer? Don’t optimize for the channel. Instead, build a motion that ensures your site is technically sound and indexable so that it’s ready for wherever LLMs are pulling from at any given time. “I would start with technical SEO as opposed to on-page,” Jade noted. “Because keywords and putting them in places is going to maybe do something for you, but making sure that the site has a seat at the table and can be seen and is crawlable will go a much longer way if you’re going to prioritize one thing.”
The brands that will win in AI search aren’t the ones that figured out the right “sexy” tactic this quarter. They’re the ones that built a durable, adaptive system for technical health and conversion-focused reporting. “The foundation is still the foundation at the end of the day.”
Voices of Search is a daily SEO and content marketing podcast hosted by Jordan Keone and Tyson Stockton. The show delivers actionable strategies and data-driven insights to help marketers navigate the ever-evolving world of search engine optimization and content marketing. New episodes air weekly, covering everything from technical SEO to AI discovery, featuring industry leaders and practitioners sharing real-world frameworks and proven tactics.
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